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 Proof from the Quran and Previous Scriptures that the earth is flat.

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 Proof from the Quran and Previous Scriptures that the earth is flat.

This sounds crazy isn't it ?  ...so keep an open mind and at least verify it .
The difference between ardh (earth)and bari (land)or balad (land)
The word "ardh" includes all the lands, the seas and air and thus “ the whole earth”, on the contrary” bari” and “balad “are place specific like a certain place, a land or a continent.
67:15 He is the One who put the Earth (ardh) at your service. Roam its corners (manakibiha), and eat from His provisions. To Him is the final summoning.
79:30 and the earth (ardh) after that, He spread it.
79:31 From it, He produced its own water and pasture.

Here we can see that the earth in its totality is given at service of mankind, and this includes all the waters and the seas, because we are extracting food from it by grace of God and all kinds of blessed provisions we can find from it.
6:97 And He is the One who made the stars to guide you during the darkness, on land (bari) and on sea. We thus clarify the revelations for people who know.
From this verse, God makes a distinction between specific land and sea, and the word being used is thus "bari"
7:58 The good land (balad) readily produces its plants by the leave of its Lord, while the bad land barely produces anything useful. We thus explain the revelations for people who are appreciative.
In a similar case "balad" is being used to describe a specific land, and not the Earth in its whole wich includes the waters and the seas.
55:33 O you jinns and humans, if you can penetrate the outer limits of the heavens and the earth (ardh), go ahead and penetrate. You cannot penetrate without authorization.
Here we see again that the word “ ardh”, wich means “ earth”, in its whole which might be shocking have ” borders” ! Remember The truth can be indeed more stranger than fiction,
It's more than just interpretation ,God is defying the Jinn and mankind to go ahead and try to penetrate the limits of our skies and “Earth” “ Ardh “
And further …
2:22 The One who made the earth a resting place (firashan), and the sky a canopy. He sends down from the sky water, to produce all kinds of fruits for your sustenance. You shall not set up idols to rival GOD, now that you know. 
This also means that pseudo-knowledge from pseudo-scientists like those from American space agency can also be rival with God's Scriptures with their lies that they expose to us like the ultimate truth 
God has made the Earth as a resting place like a bed which is flat and on this we are living : a resting place like a bed , I guess I don't need to ask you if your bed or resting place looks like a globe or an egg...?? It's jus a common sense 
In fact, God explain to us, clearly, that the earth in its whole, He has spread it like a bed, a resting place.
79:30 and the earth after that, He spread it (da'haha)
The word da'haha derives from the nest of the Ostrich and not from the Egg himself :
Here the word derives from :Al-udhy, Al-idhy, Al-udhiyya, Al-idhiyya, Al-udhuwwa:,
The place in sand where an ostrich lays its egg. That's because the ostrich ...spreads out the earth ...with its feet then lays its eggs there.
The best translation is "and the Earth, He has spread" and NOT formed like an egg or egg-shaped.
Surat 96: 6 "Wal'ardu wa ma ta'haha". The word ta'haha describe : to spread, to make flat.
Surat 15:19 "Waalarda madadnaha"is from the word "madda" describes something flat, spreaded .
We can witness that there are many repeats in the Quran about different subjects , a question we might ask about this topic is thus :” does the Quran can provides us more details about the earth?” ,so let's follow the Quran and digg deeper stage by stage.
God teaches us in the Quran to Believe in the Quran and the Previous Scriptures.
Quran 2:136 Say, "We believe in GOD, and in what was sent down to us, ...AND in what was sent down to... Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Patriarchsand in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and all the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction among any of them. To Him alone we are submitters."
We learn from the Quran and the Previous Scriptures that the Sun and the Moon have orbits and they are moving ,while the earth is not moving. The majority believes in the so called findings of Galileo that the earth is a globe but this is not supported by the Scriptures wich in addition to givins us multiple landmark and key information encourage us to deepen in the roots of knowledge, using analytical capacities and not to pursue informations that we cannot analyse and validate but this the way of the modern pseudo-science, they say and we repeat like a parrots  . 

One should question where these ideas of globe and milky way comes from...Does it comes from God or Satan ?
[13:2] GOD is the One who raised the heavens without pillars that you can see. then assumed all authority. He committed the sun and the moon, each running (in its orbit) for a predetermined period. He controls all things, and explains the revelations, that you may attain certainty about meeting your Lord.
I21 :33] And He is the One who created the night and the day. and the sun and the moon; each floating in its own orbit.
I31 :29] Do you not realize that GOD merges the night into the day and merges the day into the night.and that He has committed the sun and the moon in your service. each running in its orbit for a specific life span, and that GOD is fully Cognizant of everything you do?
[36:40] The sun is never to catch up with the moon - the night and the day never deviate -each of them is floating in its own orbit. 
2:255 GOD: there is no other god besides Him, the Living, the Eternal. Never a moment of unawareness or slumber overtakes Him. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. Who could intercede with Him, except in accordance with His will? He knows their past, and their future. No one attains any knowledge, except as He wills. His dominion encompasses the heavens and the earth, and ruling them never burdens Him. He is the Most High, the Great.

2:256 There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient.

2:257 G[i]OD is Lord of those who believe; He leads them out of darkness into the light. As for those who disbelieve, their lords are their idols; they lead them out of the light into darkness - these will be the dwellers of Hell; they abide in it forever.[/i]
Today, I know for sure, that this subject is a huge test, exposing the two camps : on the one side they are who  really believe in God's words and the other who claim to believe in God with their mouth : but prefer to trust to these pseudo-sciences.
It's Satan biggest motivation to deceive mankind ...Do you remember that at the Big Feud he said to God he would get many souls with him following to hell ?
The space agencies, is one of his strategies so you better dont fall for it and dont follow the majority who seems to follow the “truth” even when their numbers might impress you .Never conjecture will be a substitut for the truth and truth will always be with some minority here on this flat earth ! 

10:101 Say, "Look at all the signs in the heavens and the earth." All the proofs and all the warnings can never help people who decided to disbelieve.
...19:6 And mention in the scripture Idris. He was a saint, a prophet.
Okay, so let's look what Prophet Idris or Enoch brought to us from God about the chiefs who are teaching us lies.


6 and many chiefs of the stars shall transgress the order (prescribed). And these shall alter their orbits and tasks, and not appear at the seasons prescribed to them.
7 and the whole order of the stars shall be concealed from the sinners,
And the thoughts of those on the earth shall err concerning them,
And they shall be altered from all their ways, yea, they shall err and take them to be gods.
8 And evil shall be multiplied upon them, And punishment shall come upon them So as to destroy all.
It's more than obvious that we as believers cannot trust the autorities and leaders about what they teach us about the earth and the heavens .
We better go back to God and His knowledge.
Joshua10: 12. At that time Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the sons of Israel,and he said in the sight of Israel, “Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and moon, in the Valley of Aijalon.”

13. And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day. 
And to make this as complete possible let's meditate again on Quran 2:136 together with some verses from the Previous scriptures.
35:25 If they disbelieve you, those before them have also disbelieved. Their messengers went to them with clear proofs, and the Psalmsand the enlightening scriptures.
Psalm 931.The Lord reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the Lord is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

Psalm 104 : 5. He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved.

1 Chronicles 16: 30. tremble before him, all the earth; yes, the world is established; it shall never be moved.

Job 28:23 God understandeth the way thereof, and he knoweth the place thereof.
24 For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole heaven

Job 38:12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days?; and caused the dayspring to know his place?;
13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
Isaiah 40:21 Have you not known? Have you not heard?Has it not been told you from the beginning?Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? ...
22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

23 He brings the princes to nothing; He makes the judges of the earth useless.
Finally we can learn from Gods verses like you can see above who created the heavens and the earth,He has spread it like a carpet ,it does not move and has mountains as stabilizers.
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